New garden – sloping and bumpy ground


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    Rose
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    Hello,
    I’m a complete novice so would appreciate any advice.
    Our New house has a sloping garden which has been neglected for many years.
    It has an incline and is convered in what I think is couch grass and a few other weeds.
    I’d like to make a few no dig beds but having read charles’ book on how to create a new veg garden I still have some questions….

    Due to the large lumps created from grass which has pushed up I’m unsure if I can just lay cardboard and manure over the top as the cardboard wouldn’t lay flush on the ground.
    Should I dig out the clumps of grass? should I put manure down first to help level off? (The garden is accessed up some steps so getting lots of manure up there will take time). Should I lay some plastic down first to try and kill the grass to give a flatter starting point?

    Another question is about the slope in the ground, is this ok or should I create raised beds that are deeper at one end and therefore level?

    Sorry for all the questions, like I said I’m new to this and I want to get it right. Time is short with a young family and it’s a bit daunting starting from scratch with such a big space!

    I’ve attached some photos which hopefully will help.

    Any advice would be gratefully received!

    Rose

    #44791

    Rose
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    Hopefully these pictures will work

    #44792

    Rose
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    Sorry

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    #44796

    charles
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    It looks good and I would use a rotary lawn mower over the area with a final pass on the lowest setting to make it level.
    Run beds up and down the slope and no need to level anything.
    Maybe start small too

    #44797

    seaves
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    I have the same situation at my house and have been wondering about these two very questions. Thanks for asking! If you end up having pointers for how to manage a no-dig garden on a slope, Rose, please share them back.

    #45105

    Allan Took
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    Hi Rose , I have an allotment in the Peak District at an altitude of 800 feet. It is also on a south facing slope(good) about 8 feet higher at the top than the bottom. I do not seem to have any problems caused by the slope itself other than pushing a wheelbarrow up. I run my beds (4 feet wide) up and down the slope and it seems to work well. I converted to no dig last year and for the first time in 40 years of growing veg I never had the hoe out and the plot is 25×12 yards. I use well rotted horse manure for compost

    #45113

    charles
    Moderator

    Allan that is so good to hear, well done for being open to trying different methods after 40 years.
    Thanks also for the up-and-down confirmation, something I always recommend, except for super-steep slopes where terracing is an option.

    #45129

    Allan Took
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    Thanks Charles. Iknew the standard system I was following was failing Year on year. When I discovered your methods on social media last year I knew it must be the answer. I converted the whole plot last February with 5 tons of composted manure and had the best year ever. Thank you for that and the ongoing videos

    #46231

    Javier
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    Hello, and thank all of you for this information. I have a related issue, not the slope, but starting no-dig on a bumpy ground, or wavy I would say, from ploughing it into furrows with a tractor. The bumps are about 30 cm wide and 20 cm deep. Should I level off the surface before spreading the compost, or just spread directly enough compost to fill the furrows and then put the “normal” layer of compost on top?

    Thank you!

    #46235

    charles
    Moderator

    Hi Javier – the drawbacks of ploughing!
    Yes I would level the soil before mulching, because that means you need less compost and will give a more even result, since compost quickly sinks and your wavy profile would reappear.

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