Lime?


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  • #45784

    Stonyground
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    A newbie no dig question. Having applied the compost, which is mainly very decomposed shredding from a tree surgeon, do I need to apply lime for things like brassicas? Or will it just “sort itself out”?

    #45789

    Cleansweep
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    Charles may advise differently, but I was taught to plant brassica plants by “concreting” them in. This means puddling a hole with a dibber, flooding the area. Place your plant deeply (150mm?) and then water in with mud, to which a tablespoon of lime is added, as you pour. Allow to settle and then heel in tight. This was on Lower greensand, which is acidic.
    The purpose was not only to gain a ph correction, but it was said, to counter club root.Certainly, those plantings were successful.

    #45796

    charles
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    Fortunately acidic soil is quite rare so most people (no diggers at least) do not add lime before brassicas. You can buy cheap pH test sticks in some pharmacies.
    Clubroot is rare except on old allotments, you will probably be ok on that one.

    #46150

    Sandra
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    I was wondering whether to ask the same thing. Up on my mountain my soil (what there is of it) is 4. Ph test was the first thing I did and it was 4!!! I have been vegetable growing on raised beds here for a few years now and always use lime because of this problem. I don’t test each year, I just use lime when planting out brassicas, it doesn’t seem to affect anything else in the veg garden.

    I always have to use the little collars too, because of the cabbage root fly.

    #46325

    Sandra
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    Ok, I have been working hard on my veg garden which I haven’t touched for 3 years, basically it has lain fallow.

    I already had raised beds because soil here is literally a couple of inches only of brown, very acidic ‘stuff’. I have been weeding and amalgamating beds into larger ones, added what I had in the way of compost which wasn’t much, as well as leaf mould.

    So not all of my beds can be called No Dig at the moment.

    I have been able to find a supply of horse manure at last (I have even asked for it for birthdays before now) which is accessible with a trailer BUT it is fesh. I can fetch as much as I want to to build up supplies, bur what do I do for this year?

    I also had some spoiled hay donated to me, 3/4 of a large round bail, do I use the hay along with the manure to make a compost pile?

    I have seen people online planting into hay bales, but I have no idea about that sort of thing.

    I will also be starting brand new beds on a section of land that has never been used before. As the ground is very acid, do I use lime over the whole of that area as I clear it? Blackberry and nettle heaven is what it is at the moment.

    Sorry this is a long post.

    #46331

    charles
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    Sandra your soil is not so bad if there are nettles, take heart.
    The horse manure can’t all be fresh, select the oldest to spread as base layer, spread lime first if you wish, then grow larger plants like squash and potatoes, while the fresh manure and hay is composting for next year.

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